Keep ImDeity Beautiful.

Bless this post, walking in /wild and seeing so many of these unnessecary builds is an eyesore

 

I've noticed the same things and a previous server I visited had actual rules like "No 1x1 towers" and "No floating treetops". If it was found you made something like that, it was a temp ban. There is no excuse for making a server look like a noob tornado hit it, I just hope something is actually done about all this.

 

it is disgusting, i for one think they should bring in some rules like sephronia has said

 

In case anyone is too lazy to read what Sephronia wrote and I hope that is no one, here's something that simplifies at least 50% of what he said.



If you think about it, the flora, dirt, etc in /wild actually belong to ImDeity and not anyone else. Harvesting these resources, in a way, seems a lot like griefing.

Also, the signs at spawn state typing /wild will take them to an area where they can build. However, it does not say players cannot harvest resources in the wild. Signs should be placed alongside these signs mentioning the consequences. The warning in chat may be ignored by new players who still stick to /ot when talking to someone beside them instead of /l even after being told a frustrating amount of times.

 

Actually, I'm going to disagree here. People that live in the wild can rely on the wild - I certainly did when I joined the server. Typo and I made a house in the wild, and used it much like a single-player world - get resources from the area (the forest), and live on your own in solitude. We did buy some stuff from the mall (carrots, melons and potatoes for farms), but since /homes are limited and it can take a while to get back to your house (especially since /main after /mine always puts them back at spawn, in which case you have to burn one of your 40 /homes or get lucky in the correct quadrant of /wild and walk up to 1k blocks), what, I ask you, would encourage the newbies living in the wild (and not a town) to do that? "Hmm, I can use a limited resource (/homes) or put a lot of effort into walking back to my house after waiting and attempting to get to the correct /wild quadrant, or I can harvest some nearby trees. Not a very tough decision at all, eh, eriq?

 

Although I agree with this thread's intention, I believe it is completely ineffective.

As it was stated, these places are like a 'Noob was here' sign, players who logged in for the very first time 5 minutes ago.
You can't approach them and say it is not good to destroy the wild, nor that cobble cubes are ugly;
To add signs around informing it won't work, a person who makes a long strip mine on main before notice that there are no ores, simply does not pay attention to signs, not even to the environment (or believes to have an extremely bad luck);

Noobs who can't read signs that are right in front of them won't read the forums, as I believe these guidelines applies mostly to them. Replanting and to cut down the whole tree are basic rules of every town farm, my town don't even have a sign asking people to do it and my new residents do it anyway, players who live in tows, at least I believe so, would rather go to the farm than type /wild and roam around until a tree is found, or leave town borders and destroy a nearby forest. Areas around towns and far from /wild ports are mostly clean.

The only situation that applies to players who would care about the general concept of 'Keep ImDeity Beautiful' is about deserts and snow biomes which are destroyed by real active players. Mining world has no map (for obvious reasons) so lazy explorers use /main's to find the resources they need.

To temp ban people who do it does not work as well. First, if we ban a noob/newb who builds a 1x1 tower, we'd get rid of most of new players, a temp banned newbie has no reason to come back, so he won't.
Although it is not good looking, this devastation is not griefing (that deserves a ban), is lack of knowledge or experience and that dirt tower builder may be a good player after some time.
Besides that, we are talking about it like 'black-white' when the truth is that there are several grey tones in between. When a cobble cube or a destroyed tree cross the line between innocence and ambient griefing? Not to mention how hard would be to log block all that area.

I really believe there is nothing to be done in this case except for periodic resets on these areas.
Information is there, they who do it or don't really care about it, or simply don't believe they are doing something wrong.

Also, there was a thread very similar to this recently.

 

If you watch videos when most people play minecraft, you'll notice that they don't tend to replant or 'give back to Mother Nature'. Sure, once in a while they'll realise they've got a lot of saplings and replant it but most of the time they'll just store them in a chest and forget about them. I believe this is the mindset that most of the new players have and it certainly isn't something that's all too good. Remember that most of these newbies are young kids with little patience. Something like 'tree farms' would seem like too much work for them.

I know what you're trying to say. It's a lot of work walking back and forth when gathering resources from the mining world or the mall but that's the price you pay for not staying in a town, though Sephronia has unlimited /home. I'm not saying living in the wild is a BAD thing, it's an opinionated topic.

All in all, there's not much we can really do. The other unhappy players and I can grumble and complain all we like but unless we want this server's population to decrease, I think it's just best we all bite our tongues. Some things the mods have said,

Next time you wonder, ask yourself this, why did I stop living in the wild and chose to live in Doha aside from wanting to make friends?

 

Okay, so I think we now know that vershye has a point. Why not start a group to deal with these kinda things? I completely agree with seph, and thats why I want a reset (which is not going to happen) so why not deal with this ourselves?
The community is in charge of what the server looks like, so why not take care of it?

 

Another thread already exists for this here, as Driver said.

 

Ah. Okay, thank you.

 

Your first two sentences are just wrong. The dirt belongs to all players if not claimed, and is therefore allowed to be used in each player's liking. That's minecraft without Towny, the original Multiplayer Survival. And they can harvest resources in the wild, there's nothing quite wrong with that. It's how we used to do on ImDeity for a long while in the beginning. I'm all for keeping everything natural, but I'm not all for Project Nature. It will lead to more meaningless bans and warnings, and constant bleeping (insert the word) and moaning.

It's a lost cause without the admins help, is the thing. And I'm against the admins stepping in and protecting nature for my last sentence in the first paragraph. I like things natural or reforged by men to look natural, I just favor logic above all else.

For Sephronia; You're preaching to the wrong people. The problem-causers, in your case, tend to have poor communication skills, build in the wild, hardly come on the forums except to vote, and often have an average server life-span of 10 days. Either that or they're trolls. They probably don't even know we have a forum.

 

Dont worry, me and bethh and minibride have started the Wild Restoration Project! We will try to clean up /wild by cleaning up dirt towers, fixed the ground, made pools, and even fixed up a dirty garden and turned it beatiful!
Check out our thread, to see more.

 

So I guess, the only thing we can do is accept the sad truth that all we can do is: Nothing.

 

I just said what me mini and bethh are doing. And were doing pretty good so far, so if you want to pitch in then you can!

 

Sounds nice but the thing I'm concerned about is that after repairs, within a week's or month's time, some new player is just going to come along and do a number two all over our hard work.

 

Exactly, we do a check over random times on different places and fix them.
Plus, if this is the case then they will get banned for griefing since I can Log Block.

 

But it won't be griefing, just the same mindless destruction of the wild, which, although nubby, is not against the rules.