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Sticky pistons

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by Goloki, January 14, 2013.

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  1. Vershye

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    Because people use it in decoration and in designing their builds. There is a penalty for griefing already, why would we need a new one just for lava? It's not like lava can burn any placed blocks, the same restriction on fire works on lava.
     
    Vershye, January 16, 2013
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    Alright well you have thought this out much more than I have and as long as you say it will be protected well I don't have any issues with it
     
    mas_destruction, January 16, 2013
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  3. Vershye

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    We're the staff of the server. About half of the stuff players think of we've already thought out thoroughly.
     
    Vershye, January 16, 2013
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    Lava has its uses also. Waste disposal decoration being just two great examples. Im the last map, my house just happen to be on a lava pool underground. So I placed a buch of glass on top of it and had a lava party floor!
     
    RLindsey2, January 16, 2013
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  5. Gawkan

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    If you just put hole in the ground without lava, I believe the items will stay there forever till someone picks them up.

    Also lava can be used for -
    cobble generator
    castle with lava around it (lava would be better then water especially if want make it evil)
    Pakour course with lava at bottom or something
    light
    decoration (yes you can get decoration ideas with it)
    and more that I can't think of right now.

    If lava was for craftmen level 2 and above and quite expensive why would they waste their time getting to level 2 and paying loads dei to grief and risk getting banned?
     
    Gawkan, January 17, 2013
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    i agree, pistons can grief only 1 block, the most expensive block ingame is probably a block of diamond which is worth up to 225 dei, 300 dei for a sticky piston is a reasonable price i think
     
    legoazurp, January 17, 2013
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  7. Vershye

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    Pistons can't grief any blocks if they are inside a protected plot. I remember stating this already.
     
    Vershye, January 17, 2013
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    what about putting it on the edge of your plot and steal your next door neighbour block? even though it be pointless since, I hardly see anyone use expensive blocks on the edge of their plot plus it risking you getting banned.
     
    Gawkan, January 17, 2013
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    some people use diamond blocks for decoration, not for protection
     
    legoazurp, January 17, 2013
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    Unless you own your neighbors plot as well as your own, no, it can't be done.
    You do realize that town plots are protected? pistons aren't even allowed to extend into a plot that is protected.
     
    Vershye, January 17, 2013
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    The will despawn if they are left there for some time without being touched, with the presence of a player nearby. (It works like furnaces, there is a countdown that works when players are nearby)
    Unless Deity changed the way that works.
    Also on server restarts the items on the ground are destroyed I believe.


    It is unthinkable that someone would grief with any of these tools.
    A player that has taken the time to achieve rank 2 (which is quite hard to reach if you look at the prospective requirements for laborers) would know the rules.
    They would also know that if they go on a "i'm quitting the server anyways * this" rampage their 'lava lake' could be undone in a single rollback.

    What I believe to be the only issue is accidental deaths.
    I.E1: You have a castle with a bridge over lava, some new player visits the place, falls off the bridge and dies.
    I.E2: You are flying low (to avoid falling deaths with plot restrictions) and get flight turned off due to plots, therefore falling into the surrounding lava lake.
    These would be rare happenings, but they would still happen a couple times a day due to the size of the server's population and therefore the increased relative probability.

    I do not think that these are issues, as I am on the side of the 'if you're not careful too bad for you' argument.
    Same thing happens when you're mining and fall into lava. Your fault for not being a careful miner.

    However it would be nice if Deity somehow managed to turn off lava damage (only in the main world) but I think that the staff would have already thought of such an obvious thing.
    I think it would be hard to implement this plugin wise, and is definitely not a priority.
     
    Frenchy1, January 17, 2013
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  12. Vershye

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    Items on the ground aren't destroyed on a server restart. I've tested it, heh.

    Also, the accidental death won't be an issue unless people specifically build traps in their plots. Then they'll be punished for killing people outside of a pvp area. Look at how many open lava pits and fires there are in the capital spawn? Plenty of places to die already.
     
    Vershye, January 17, 2013
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    if sticky pistons cannot grief, why are they forbidden to be used?
     
    BarryX15, January 17, 2013
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    Wasn't it a Duping glitch from a while ago?
     
    Rmarmorstein, January 17, 2013
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    It has something to do with Deity's plan of incorporating it into higher level craftsmen class perks.
     
    SaintThunder, January 17, 2013
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    The were originally removed because of griefing. That has only recently been fixed by worldguard in one of the past updates. As far as I know, like I said already Deity has plans on letting sticky pistons be placed by the next rank of craftsman. Regular pistons at rank 1, and stickies at rank 2.
     
    Vershye, January 17, 2013
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    Yeah I can't wait for sticky pistons to be reintroduced into the game, I think the new redstone lamp design that only turns on at night is sweet :D
     
    Zach2525, January 17, 2013
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    That is a daylight sensor. Atleast I believe
     
    mas_destruction, January 17, 2013
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    I agree so much. Pistons are so useful for as many things as you want, your only limit is your imagination! You can build whatever you want;traps to protect things on unprotected land, secret or automatic doors, cutting of redstone, the possibilities are endless! But all this creativity will not be possible without enabling craftsmen to use them.
     
    super_soup, January 20, 2013
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    Well you can already use pistons just not sticky pistons.
     
    mas_destruction, January 20, 2013
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