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New Recipe Suggestions

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by smcallah, February 11, 2015.

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    Can we please have haste potions for mining?

    Perhaps it could be crafted by adding lapis to potion of swiftness (keeping the swiftness potion's duration)?

    Suggested Recipe (Shapeless):
    1 [potion of swiftness (+20% : 3:00)] + 1 lapis II_ = 1 [potion of haste II (+44% : 3:00)]
    1 [potion of swiftness (+20% : 8:00)] + 1 lapis II_ = 1 [potion of haste II (+44% : 8:00)]
    1 [potion of swiftness II (+40% : 1:30)] + 1 lapis _ = 1 [potion of haste IV (+107% : 1:30)]

    Fairness Analysis:
    Formula for mining time:
    base_material_time / base_tool_mining_speed / 1.3^efficiency_level / 1.2^haste_level [1]

    Enchantment cost for efficiency IV, unbreaking III diamond pickaxe is at least 3 lapis and 3 enchanting levels ("at least" since you don't always get a pickaxe with these specs). Such a pickaxe has about 1562 * 4 = 6248 uses [2] [3]. When mining for gold, most of the blocks mined are stone, which take 0.3 seconds for an unenchanted diamond pickaxe, faster than any ore [2]. With efficiency IV, that time is less than 0.10504 [3].

    Therefore, enchanting a diamond pickaxe to these specs is approximately equivalent (lower-bound) to applying a haste 5.75 effect for a duration of 10 min:56 sec, for (at least) the cost of 3 lapis and 3 exp levels. Compare that with a haste 2 effect of duration 8 min:0 sec, for the cost of 1 lapis, 1 redstone, 1 sugar, 1 nether wart and 1 glass bottle for the potion. Note, a craftsman gains enough exp mining to always have an efficiency IV pickaxe available to mine with.

    From this, the potion doesn't seem too unfair, compared to the enchanted pickaxe. It would be quite useful, as it could increase mining output by 44% (or 107% if replacing redstone with glowstone dust -- which would cost ~17 dei a minute for just the glowstone; possibly not very practical if you're in it for the money, but useful if you want more resources).


    Justification of crafting material choice:
    Lapis was chosen because efficiency enchanting also uses lapis (efficiency is analogous to haste), and because lapis is mined (potion's use contributes to potion's production). Lapis is uncommon, but not so rare that it would be impractical to use in an 8 minute duration haste II potion, since the amount of lapis used in the potion could be less than the extra lapis gained from using the potion.

    Potion of swiftness was chosen because moving quickly logically relates to mining quickly, and because swiftness potions are comparatively inexpensive.

    References:
    1 - https://bukkit.org/threads/what-formula-does-minecraft-use-to-determine-mining-time.284931/
    2 - https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Pickaxe
    3 - https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Enchanting#Unbreaking
     
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    Alternatively to lapis, the recipe could use blaze powder. That way more lapis can be saved for building with. Gun powder, used in making blaze powder, isn't used for much else, but is difficult to get a hold of in large quantities, so using blaze powder would be a way of nerfing the potion. It may also encourage trade; people who do a lot of mob hunting could sell to people who do a lot of mining. Blaze powder is also used to make strength potion; it makes sense to combine a swiftness potion with a strength ingredient to make a haste potion.

    Lapis or blaze powder could work.
     
    Last edited: December 17, 2017

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