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i think its about time

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by HeroMorgueZ, March 2, 2015.

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  1. HeroMorgueZ

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    time to cut your loses and and give the people a choice a public vote to find out weather or not you guys would want the old creative building saved or a new one made so we can all start upgrading our craftmans ranks its taking to long we had to have a server wide vote this needs to happen now guys
     
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  2. Attack_on_Ender

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    You do realize they are working on the plugin, not the actual world, right? Also some of us have MONTHS put into our current wip builds so no, not time to cut our losses, it's time for you to learn the patience you will need when waiting for plot reviews to happen
     
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  3. HeroMorgueZ

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    i know i havent used this server for as long as everyone else has but ive been patience for two MONTHS now its annoying not being able to rank up to lvl 0ne craftsman town members ask me to place lift signs and water i cant do these things for the people of the town im part of it makes me feel usless that the class ive chosen to be is not at all useful so maybe rank 0 members could be given the power to do so until the creative is up then :p
     
  4. Fiver26

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    Oooh 2 months, when you get abit higher in creative you'll have to wait longer for your reviews to go through. It may seem annoying but really, be patient, the developer is working on it. Also getting rid of the current creative would make me greatly dislike you for suggesting it, been working on my build there for a YEAR
     
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  5. HeroMorgueZ

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    sorry if i upset or annoyed anyone i just need to get that off my chest
     
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    Everyone needs to take a chill pill and cool off. Look, maybe I am a bit more convincing having been on this server for two years...I think we should have at least a kind of status update on the progress with creative seeing as though it makes some people feel useless to their towns to not have creative up.

    One other thing. Time on this server is IRRELEVANT. Hero has just as much right to be upset or frustrated about something as players who have been here for years. We are a COMMUNITY, so I personally would thank all of you for ACTING LIKE ONE.

    This is why Hero called for a vote, so that people who have been working on their build for "a YEAR" as you say, could put in their two cents as could people who have been patiently waiting to work on their creative ranks. I personally would just like a sort of ETA on the creative world. That is all.
     
  7. Trekar_Sil

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    I think a lot of people are frustrated, but Hero doesn't need to demand something like he has a right to. He doesn't. None of us do. Sure, a lot of us want to see creative up soon, but I'd rather wait til they get the bugs sorted out than deal with a buggy creative, and I'm sure there's a few of us here that remember how buggy creative was toward the end of last map.

    In short, in the future Hero, less demanding, more patience.
     
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    Creative Server Status Update: Being worked on my cliff and Taco
    ETA: When the plugin works

    Before the server was updated the plugin completely broke and nothing at all would work for it. Promotions, claiming plots, anything... What actually broke has to be figured out, as well as actually fixing it. Then once it's fixed, it needs to be optimized so that it won't actually lag people out and kick them from the server. Which part of that is recoding the plugin so that it will reference a local database, rather then the one that's on the main server. That recoding also includes Deity recoding part of his plugins to reference the other database over the main one.

    For future reference: The title of a thread, is not the beginning of the first sentence in the post. Give it an actual title next time or else people don't really take your post seriously.
     
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    Vershye pretty much cleared everything up. The plugin is being worked on and patience is all that that we ask. We do not give that many (or any) updates on it because of threads like this; if we were to say something about it's progress, people get way too over excited and then disappointed or upset if it isn't done in as short amount of time as they like.

    I/We have no intention of wiping the Creative slate clean. Everyone has put too much effort into what they have built already, especially some of the high ranking players.

    As far a real ETA goes, we cannot give one. It isn't as simple as baking a cake. With a cake, you pretty much know how long you going to keep it in the oven. A plugin is more like building a ship. It takes way longer. Sometimes parts/pieces take too long to complete or break while they are being made. You also have to be extra careful because once you put it in the field, it better work properly, otherwise there are potentially very dangerous consequences.
     
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    wait wait wait...you're 27 and use the term butthurt? Also if you put over a year of work into something only for someone to casually suggest whipping it clean you would get upset too, doesnt matter if its "just a game"
     
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    i wouldnt mind it getting whipped im a good enough builder to start again and i say butthurt cause theres so many more nasty words i could have used but i dont wanna have that issue coming up with a mod :) let it go
     
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    I agree with Fiver. There are far too many players who have put a considerable amount of time and effort into their creative builds. Not only that, but these ranks in creative are linked with craftsman ranks and can't simply be "reset". If this were to happen, people that were approaching the next level craftsman rank would have to start over because a few players couldn't wait for creative to have its issues fixed, and wanted a "blank slate". Creative is a big part of the server and it would be similar to someone proposing another map reset. It's not needed and it would serve no purpose.
     
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    For those who remember - we had a whole year 2012 with no shops and half of that year with no auctions, making merchant class useless, while being told in march "theres going to be new shops in the new capital" - Auctions returned in June and the new capital came with shops but no shop plugin to use them in August, then first shops were deployed in December.

    The point - many merchants kept their class for all that time and still were able to have fun playing.
     
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    I am all in favor of getting Creative working again, working properly, and without losing existing builds. But it does sound like it could be a while.

    From the view of retaining new players, it might be beneficial to have a short term plan for ranking or at least to lvl 1. I have lost a few good builders because they felt like they could not participate as a craftsman, the inability to use creative, and the server was broken.

    I understand that the old players that have paid their dues with time and money might want to take the “too bad” attitude. But in my opinion without new blood this server will just get stale. Ignoring incoming players is just bad business.

    If we could temporarily go back to the great builds method and judge Main builds that might facilitate ranking up.
     
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    I feel a bit of an outlier as a non-donor, but hope that my opinion will be respected by others nonetheless. :)

    Bcc_Chicago brings up a good point in factoring in the needs of newer players. My friend goofytooth69 and I were lucky enough to have been a part of the server since before the most recent reset, allowing us to rank up and become useful members of Eclipse, she as a craftsman and myself as a noble. But newer players, especially those with interest and skills in construction do not have the chances we had a year ago, and this can frustrate a certain percentage of these newcomers who otherwise might have become important parts of the ImDeity community.

    Say Niall had been a new player who was lost to the server due to his inability to place water. The server would have missed out on someone who is, with due respect to others, one of the more respected players on this server. How many of you can seriously say that this server would be the same without Niall, or Minibirde, or Tychonyx, or Driver_X? I for one cannot imagine this server without any of you guys. Therefore, I believe that we should do our best as a community to help the new members prosper in becoming active, useful members of the server.

    In conclusion, I am suggesting that we come up with a solution that does not involve wiping the creative server but allows newer members to rank up nonetheless. Perhaps something so simple as SkyHold's Winter fell build off could be used as a means of ranking up.

    Thank you for your time. (Sorry for the relatively long post. I ended up writing more than I first thought I would.)
     
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    Locking this as it's been answered. I suggest people follow ImDeity & Kill3rtaco as they give updates when something is done/fixed, as well as the Announcements forum.

    As a note, if you feel the need to respond to a thread, as per the Forum Guidelines...

    6. Respect other people's posts. There is no need to show how " smart " you are.

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