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/Fly restriction compared to /mc

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by hardknockz1, May 5, 2012.

  1. hardknockz1

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    Explain in good detail about how Imdeity will be further adjusting "tweaking" the /fly. Reasons: MC had its lag, however, was very useful for placing blocks in spots that would be difficult without. Provide assistance to other members on the server. Allows us to move at satisfying speeds.

    /fly in theory is a fantastic idea, but lacks everything. Reason: Building at altitudes means making a tower of blocks for necessary hight, then breaking the tower blocks. Now we need to place 4 or 5 blocks before we get the ideal block spot. Can't move faster than a crouch unless you get lucky with a lag spike.

    /MC was designed to have its limit as the Carpet. You can only do what the magic carpet can do. Which in turn is agreeable, because MC works that way.

    /fly was designed free flow. To soar through the sky, zip pass the trees, glide over the water! Now it's completely reduced to limit me, not the fly but me.

    I paid a price for what was placed on the website. Please provide those expectation again.

    P.S. No more complaining if /fly is not limited. Also i would think more people would pay for free flow fly. Money in the bank Imdeity! :)
     
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    The reason ImDeity made flying that slow is that he didn't want it to be better than walking. So donors weren't flying about the place all the time.
     
  3. Vershye

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    I'm on my phone so won't post much, but I will say this. ImDeity iks already working on a replacement 'scaffolding' for mc, and van is already working on fixing the current fly glitches.

    I do hope the speed gets put back to normal, because when you used mc you were able to walk and sprint just like if you were on the ground.
     
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  4. Vershye

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    Also, just a quick response to this part:
    You didn't pay for the perks. You donated to support keeping the server up and running so you can play on it. The perks that you received weren't compensation for your payment. They are given in appreciation of your donation depending on the amount of that donation.

    So before you try complaining about it because you "paid for it", you didn't pay for anything other than to keep the server running.
     
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  5. eltono999

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    Commands/in-game coin/perks are gifts for donation and not a service. We reserve the right to make changes to the perks as necessary.
     
  6. TheCrazyJoel

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    Eltono you say that like your a mod. Anyways I like /fly since you can fly underwater! However, there are so many problems. First off half the time I don't get mid air. Second if I hit the ground I will stop flying and will jump awkwardly. Finally when you turn off /fly you are sent to the lowest point of where your are "standing" I am sure mods are well aware of these numerous issues with /fly but I had to say it. Do not reply to this lecturing on how I really didn't have to say this.
     
  7. eltono999

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    It's a direct quote from the donation page
     
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    That would encourage non-donors to donate to the server.
     
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    1) Ive donated 4 or 5 times now and yet I know its a donation that doesn't entitle me to anything. You aren't being cheated. In the little I've glimpsed of the inner workings ImDeity, Van and the staff you cant even begin to imagine all the perks, games, etc that they have planned for the server and you. I assure you everything they do and plan in the long term is to get people to the server, keep current people happy and to be at the top of minecraft multiplayer. If you want to demand anything demand more teaser vids from them on what they have coming up.

    2) I've used /mc in new spawn, buenavista's spawn, my tower, etc.. While its extremely useful it is still laggy as hell. Glass blocks would stay behind if you lagged out, while running you'd partially fall then rubberband back up, etc

    3) The only fault with /fly is you cant place blocks in mid air. Building a noobtower instead so you can plan your build out isn't going to delay your build. I always did this with /mc.

    4) We are one of the few top end servers that code most of our own plug ins. They do get tested but just like any game, program, or update you wont know what happens until you stress test it with the population. Relax, Van is tweaking it.

    5) and last but not least this server could dispense strippers and beer and people will still find something to complain about so its not like THAT is anything new.
     
  10. Seedy_Slim

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    5 hours later:

    ...Mrrr?


    Then use quotation marks and cite it instead of pretending to have any authority whatsoever.
     
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    I was on my phone, couldn't be bothered.
     
  12. hardknockz1

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    Love the server, and I would donate if i was you!
     
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    I agree at /fly has its flaws. Today as i was using it to build if i scraped against the side of the wall it would automatically kick me out of fly mode and resulted in death a couple times. I'm not sure if this has been an issue for anyone else. I do like the change, but agree that there still is room for improvement.
     
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    I agree with that, most of the stuff I read in /g, /ot, /h, /tc and even /l is complaints about certain plugins. Minecraft isn't perfect and it is the same with the servers, it should be enough that this server is coding its own plugins.

    P.S. I love the dispensing strippers and beer idea. I would donate $1 for that to be coded in.
     
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    I would enjoy this /fly a little more if you didn't break stuff as if you were underwater when you aren't. I have noticed that disabling /fly will not send you the lowest point! Thank you!
     
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    Quit the bickering, I swear some of you act so childish sometimes. Im not going to go combatting anything said because Strydier I think put the the most eloquently. When we test things out to see how they work, its either me or deity or the both of us testing. Since we designed most plugins we test for what we programmed against. You can't get full testing until you stick that bad boy up, and see how it performs.

    There will be a replacement for the "scaffolding" as others have said, potentially we may bring /mc back on a paid basis, to keep its use minimal, another alternative is making a /platform or something of the sort. We will try out one thing and if it doesn't work or people dont like it, well go and do another. Thats how things work. This server is a work in progress and wont ever be "done". We will always be implementing new things, and always be tweaking how things work. Yes they may take time, but just because you dont see a fancy new feature or a new element on your side, doesn't mean that were not doing anything. There are many optimisations that we do on a regular basis, to keep the server from lagging everyone out.

    Building on what I just said, just because some of the users complain about certain things and how they are long overdue, doesn't mean that its a top priority and there are other things that need to be done first. Plus, at the moment on the development front its just me and deity. We dont have a full team, or people who are hired to do this. We go to college full time and spend our free time making things work better for you guys. Its a hobby not a job. Which is also why you may see us working on side projects such as DeityGames or my own Dwarves vs Zombies. We get bored of working on tedious things and take a break from all that crap to work on something that proves to be a better waste of time. We may not actually play minecraft on this server much, but we enjoy working on the developing side of things, and you dont like to hack away at the same wall of stone for days at a time. It gets old, which is why we do these sort of things.


    On a brighter and totally unrelated note, This weekend we will be mostly dedicating to getting the mining world set back up as if it is on the same server and just another world. Most of your old features will be there but some will not, such as the ability to /t spawn. Just to update everyone on the status of the priority list.

    PS. Maybe we will start actively writing up posts on the dev blog.....
     
  17. Leviathan_Ziz

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    Building is actually easier with /fly , there are no glass blocks blocking you, the lag made moving around on the carpet TERRIBLE.
    The speed has only been set to 70% of your normal movement speed, so I don't get the problem?

    And as Zang said: You donate to the server, not pay for perks.
     
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    @Van - Thanks to you, and Deity for all your hard work. Seriously. You guys rock.

    True enough. I actually would really like /fly (so much better for screenshots and video!), save for the movement, which I'm starting to realize must be buggy or something ..? Here's what it's like: Most of the time, when I turn on /fly, I am crawling along. Not at 70%, or 50%, but literally crawling. It is way slower than I would be going were I, say, crouching and moving. I'm fairly sure it's not lag, because I can place and destroy blocks at normal speeds while in flight, and they don't get stuck, disappear or anything else that would normally indicate lag. At first I put this down to a severely decreased rate of movement in the plug in, but now I don't think it is. Because in using /fly more, every once in a while it's like the mod will hiccup and I can move at a normal rate for a few seconds before going back to the enormously decreased speed again. It is ... Very strange.
     
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    im fine with it. but the lag. i dont know if its my own pc or what it is?
     
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    Honestly, after my exams, i am thinking of donating $200. Being able to fly at creative speed would seal the deal (i'm not donating purely for the perks its because I just like the server :D )
     

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