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Nice people like me play games too, so we should be aiming for those xD

 

Sadly, most people that only play mini games aren't like you Heinz.

 

Yes that may be the fact, but if there are some nice people like me playing games, they should come play with us instead, we should be saving them from the revolting peasants. If we find 20 players out of 20,000 that are like me, then i would consider it a boost by 20 nice players.

 

So add a mini game server, then ban everyone that's not like Heinz? Sounds like a plan to me. xD

 

I didnt say ban anyone............noob.

 

You don't understand the point, then. If we add a minigames server, it can go one of two ways:

1. It flops. We get nobody, and all the developing time is wasted.
2. It succeeds. We get TONS of minigames players and, since most of them will get banned due to hacks, failure to follow chat rules, or other problems, the mods are overwhelmed.

There is no way to selectively advertise to the "nice" minigames players, as you suggest. So, yes, it would, in the end, be banning everyone that's not a "nice" minigames player - they'll bring it upon themselves eventually.

 

How very 2 dimensional of you xD

Lets start with the ban topic, what would a player do on the game server? spam chat? it happens already on main, so they get muted or temp banned. i would simply give them a 30 min mute on the gaming server, 1 game server chat would not be serverwide as previously stated. 2 what else could a muted player possibly do? spleef his or her opponent? or kill them in the survival games? boohoo. If i am missing something with this please let me know xD

This is bound to happen for some players, but not all. And in case you hadnt noticed we ban a lot of players already. It will always be an issue no matter what server you have, Haters gonna hate. So just because Haters will hate that means we cannot have our own nice gaming server?

I think you are arguing against it for the wrong reasons, yes there may be issues with it, but it seems to be the direction to progress and do things the Deity way instead of how it is on other servers, My thinking is, anything the other servers can do, we could do better.

You need a little faith.

No development time is ever wasted, even if it did flop, The server could say "we tried this" and lesson learned, however dont knock it till you try it.
my plan would be to start small, add Deity war arenas, Coding pretty much all good to go, Then add some survival games, Coding pretty much done bar 1 or 2 small issues to update.
And then add some spleef arenas.
And once we have a working model we can slowly build on it and add to it over time.

I am not saying make a minigames server, spend all our time and resources on it and hope it works. I am saying lets take the first step and see what happens.

Rome was not built in a day, and i didnt say i expect this to happen overnight.

But i ask you, where does Deity intend to draw the line on the server and community potential?

Shakes head. We find the nice players by getting to know them, once they feel included, they will get inquisitive with how extensive the server is and will explore and enjoy.

 

That's quite stereotypical. Seems you had a bad time with them. Very rude to say that 'most' will get banned. Haters gonna hate, and haters should not be put in the group 'mini gamers'. It's just that mini games are popular, and you'll find a lot more people, a lot of variety. All great and all a youtuber advertises them to be popular, but the fact is, a youtuber does not make them stay, the server makes them stay. And that what this server is all about. Made me stay didn't it?

 

I found that minecraft players above a certain age are not so generic.

I have also arranged a meeting with Deity so that i can explain some of the finer points in more detail and see what he thinks.

That way he can also give me a guide as to what could and could not work, and i can refine this idea further, or change the direction of the suggestions.

But if we do not try we will never know our true potential.

Imagine for a moment, Deity gets a rank boost due to the fact it is one of the few servers that has had staying power to keep going for over 3 years, but how long do you expect that to hold out? What i am suggesting is opening certain aspects that appeal to more players which will get the rest of the server even more exposure and hopefully with increased popularity we could even hit the number 1 spot again on minestatus xD

I just want to turn one of the best servers into THE best server xD

The server that other servers look at with envy and try to copy us!

After all mimicry is the sincerest form of flattery xD

 

Lol Heinz, I was just being sarcastic. I know what you are actually trying to say.

My point was never that people who play mini games are bad. I was trying to say that those type of people wouldn't be as compatible to a community server. They aren't used to a server like us where you have to actually talk to people, but there is a way to solve this. If we implement mini games, the currency on main should be able to be used on the mini game server, this way people would have to play on main and will be able to get to know how the server works. Unless thy donated money, they would learn to make friends.

 

Err aside from all of the arguing, I don't know what Deitygames is... If it has been stated in one of the many posts I didn't read pls tell me.

 

Survival Games or Hunger Games, however you want to say it

 

If i were you i would go back and re read the entire everything i have suggested.

Because basically everything you say here has been addressed in one form or another.

The sponsor a tribute thing, is seperate and not part of the suggestion for a Deity games server.

This is a seperate thing, so i would ask you politely to suffer my walls of text to get to the juicy bits.

There is a difference between arguing and debating, however some people accept other peoples opinions more readily than others. I for one am open to all possibilities. But of course i love my own ideas, and will defend them xD

Take my walls of text, some people will argue against my ideas without even reading them.]

Which is no argument at all.

 

Im going to focus more on the answering of the main question of this thread rather than argue with people who have already posted. I agree with many, but disagree just as much. On a positive note, the mere existence of discussions on this thread, in my opinion, is a great thing, because it shows that there is still a great deal of care and importance in the future of this server.

I'd like to start off by saying that i voted no. My reasoning behind this is that this server is unique when compared to others, and it should be kept that way. servers that are mini-game oriented get A LOT of traffic, a great deal of votes, and some great popularity. However, theyre missing a key ingredient - moments like these. The fact that we have such a dedicated player-based forum and a server full of regulars shows that not only does this server stand out, it gives back. the freedom that players have on the main server is tremendous! you want to join doha? go right on ahead. You want to live in the wilderness? be my guest! want to create your OWN town and jump for glory? it's recommended! I feel as if the base of ImDeity is our evolving plug-in, otherwise known as kingdoms and towns(or whatever nickname you have for it, im drawing a blank atm, but you know what i mean).

I think that, instead of blaming the inactivity of members in towns, or stating that after building a house, theres nothing left to do, we focus on fixing the problem, not creating something new in order to kick the existing issue under the rug! We have an amazing group of developers, no matter what anyone says, and the capacity for evolution on our plug-in is enormous! What if we created a completely new setup for the upcoming reset? what if we added in new incentives and goals for town members and kingdoms? the possibilities are literally endless; we could go as far as making wars, nations, anything that pops into your head. Although this is also true for mini-games, there's so many of them already in existence... we have a great opportunity to become something huge! Why go the road most used when we can build our own?

Thanks for reading,

-A

 

Excuse me?

That is exactly what we want to do, make it our own, however Zero progress will be made if we do not try new things out, a simple server that runs our own "original" games ~~Will be just that.

And no offense but your post doesnt say why we stand to lose what we have, when we would simply be adding to what we have, so i see the "moments like these" as a mute point, because i dont plan on sacrificing one ounce of awesomeness

However some classic games like spleef and Survival games are simply too much fun to leave out of the mix in my opinion, As i said earlier "whatever the other servers do, we can do better"

I would love to play events on this server and see new players each week, rather than the same faces each time. It is stagnant and non exciting.

 

True, it's always the same people in the finals of every event, something exciting is seeing typo not get into pvp finals xD!

 

You do see new people every week - it's just that they aren't necessarily good at PvP Some are, and do well early on - attracting people who are good at PvP would be interesting, I'll admit, and it would be fun to have more people who aren't like "OMG TYPO AND DRAGON REALLY STAHP" who are good at PvP (for example, I faced Rawr, who doesn't do the PvP event much, and beat him in an extremely close and fun fight - I love facing new *good* people at the PvP events. However, this should not be anything that we need to focus on as a primary goal. I will have a separate (significantly longer) post in a few minutes regarding something else I wanted to discuss.
EDIT: Since neither side in this argument is listening to the other at this point, there's no purpose in making the more-than-one-page-in-a-word-document post at the moment. If you honestly want to hear what I have to say, feel free to let me know, because I'd be happy to share it with you. However, I will not post it here due to the fact that all it would be doing is continuing this pointless argument by reiterating counterpoints to the constant reiteration of points that have already been countered.

 

As we said before, many, many times, even the little change is good. That goes for pvp-ing someone new and exciting

 

Yeah we may have a few people every now and then who are new, but the odds are always against the in experienced players.
I have slowly gotten better at events. but i need so much more practice and more regularly.
I would like to see double the number of new players that come to try out the server and events, which means more promotion.

As Saint said, being able to turn up and just play a game would be a huge benefit and would please more people than it would disappoint.

 

:/ wow such consistency

Now, before anyone says "sigh another typo post this will be great", be quiet and read.

When I first posted on this thread, I did not intend for it to turn out the way that it did. I started out with a single purpose: to try to make people understand that doing a major change would have consequences that people were failing to see. However, as the thread progressed I got frustrated, as did Heinz, and it turned into something that I am ashamed to be a part of- a thread where people repeat themselves endlessly without even bothering to actually take into consideration what the other person has said, and taking it personally. Note that this happened on both sides- many questions I asked remained unanswered other than a vague "but its a good idea", and I am not guiltless either- not even close. I have come to understand that the people involved have been incited into a rage that can only be calmed by a cease in argument, and therefore, I will attempt to stop the pointlessness.

I also still believe what I said at the beginning regarding the good points that the main post of this brings up:
"I do think that this server is lacking somewhat in the events area. I, for one, would love an easy way for players to organize their own events. First of all, /go pvp needs a revamp. There should be a way in which you can challenge another player to a 1v1, or even an automated way like /go spleef (that runs taking account for people in war). Also, /go spleef would be great to have again."

I think that this would solve the problem Heinz brought up in his most recent post- the good people at both spleef and PvP have to practice elsewhere. I think that a way for people to improve would increase participation in events and decrease ragequitting. I also do think that a weekly SG event would be completely great as well. However, I have an issue with the idea of ongoing events, because for those to succeed there needs to be a larger player base (and proportionally a larger population of minigame players), so that at any given time there are enough people to make up a good game. A game of SG that only has 6-8 people isn't that great, kind of like a small game of DeityWar when people leave. I think that everything is best in moderation, and so ongoing games only thrive if there is a large enough player base on at most times to keep it running, which, although it might work for this server at a later point in time, will not work in the current state of the server.

I am trying to understand my own past logic (if you can call it that), and I think that I was so against this idea because it is too long-term to be able to accurately predict what will happen. In order for us to have a minigames server, we would have to take steps to get there. If the necessary steps were outlined, then it would be much easier to have discussions about the idea instead of hypothesizing and dreaming about what might be able to happen. However, until that point, there is not a lot of "substantial" things to criticize, and in trying to criticize that, my anger passed onto criticizing the idea itself and to personal hatred, although I had to work to keep a watch on myself to avoid saying something that would have consequences, and for that I apologize. In order for this idea to be able to move forward, there needs to be more specifics about priorities- is the first step creating the new server, making the minigames and integrating them before they get their own server, improving on the weekly events, or something else entirely? I do not pretend to understand where the people who want this idea are coming from, and so I will leave it up to you all to lay out a baseline for Deity, if he so chooses, from which to work.

I hope that this post will help both sides of the bloody battle to assist in shaping the idea into something that fits the server and makes the gameplay of those who play on it enjoyable. Thank you for reading, and have a good day.