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Voting competition for individuals - spawn eggs

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by BarryX15, June 30, 2013.

  1. BarryX15

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    One thing how to improve voting effort is to reward for people who have most votes. Not money - we get more than enough for voting already. Animal spawn eggs came on my mind:

    - There is no need for new plugin, only to count people with most votes once per month and then /give them eggs

    - There is no way how to obtain spawn eggs ingame, so they would be very rare and valuable. Also there are more kinds of animals = rich people could buy themselves a collection of eggs.

    - You can rename egg on anvil to give your animal its own name - how many people will call their sheep "MuttiMatti", cat "Shai", or horse "Yogs"?

    - Tamed animals do not despawn, so dogs and cats tamed from egg-spawned wolves and ocelots should stay alive. Other animals are supposed to despawn though (not sure about horses). If egg-spawned animals would not despawn, sheep eggs would be extremely useful for farming wool and it would be necessary to counterbalance it somehow.

    - every month, either top 10 voters may get randomly chosen spawn egg, or we can have some order, for example:
    #1 = Ocelot (did you ever try to tame one?)
    #2 = Wolf (although we can summon dogs with MCMMO, only spawn egg allows to give it a name)
    #3 = Horse (because it is new animal)
    #4 = Mooshroom (you cannot find it anywhere on main world)
    #5 = Squid (admins said there was some memory leak issue with squids - if people would use eggs to spawn them, would one or very few squids on whole world trigger that issue?)
    #6 = Sheep (would be #1 for wool if not despawning)
    #7 = Chicken (would be #2 for eggs if not despawning)
    #8 = Cow (would be #3 for milk if not despawning)
    #9 = Pig (the least useful of "old" animals)
    #10 = Bat (let it squeek)

    Minecraft only shows the name of animal you are pointing at, as shown here. No worries about flooding screen with animal names.
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    I shall ride on Yogs into the sunrise!
     
  3. Dragonslayer314

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    I do like this idea, but I have one a few things I am a bit worried about - first of all, what about ties? Second of all, what about inactives that have been voted for? Also, would this even be possible to make spawn-egg spawned animals not despawn? And, if it is possible, would it be possible to make spawn-egg offspring despawn? I love the idea, but there are so many things that would have to be put in place and so many issues that could come up, so I'm not sure how or if it would be implemented.
     
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    I have three words after this sentence. Auto. Despawn. Timer.
     
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    That is to say if they did this they would have to change the auto-despawn timer, one of the reasons I think this is a bit too complicated to be implemented, but if it was, it would be worth it.
     
  6. Lord_Aquarius

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    I actually like this idea A LOT. Voting plays a huge part in expanding, and being seen, and with (still) complaining players about how there used to be so many more actives or whatever, I believe that this could help.

    Spawn eggs...maybe. I would be horrified if I won the voting competition, got, for example, a mooshroom, only to have it despawn in the few minutes after I placed it, or just have someone swoop in and kill the poor thing. Or, somehow remove the despawning from any spawned mob. Sure, someone could start a giant sheep monopoly, but you would only get one per month if you won the competition. "Oh yeah I've been winning the voting competition for 2 months straight and now I have 2 SHEEP! YESSS" There would be no reason to stay and farm those 2 when I could just venture out into the mining world and start shearing.

    What players want is something to show off. Believe it or not, there's a social ladder in-game, with popularity playing a huge part. If someone had something to wear, a block to place, something to show their wealth, such as a person wearing enchanted gold armor, carrying diamond blocks. Spawn eggs can _kinda_ show this off, but...there could be other things/items. Get something that might really make players want to win this contest, rather than just those regulars voting daily who happen to chance upon the top 10.

    Last idea, don't let it be known how many votes you have. If it was just displayed perhaps on the home page, people could see the top 10, see how far off they are, and just not make the effort of voting because they think they can't get the prize. Sure, someone could count how many times they voted, but not many would do that. I think there needs to be a way to counter those players who accidentally miss a day or a few, so they decide not to even try to vote. Maybe something to works like, top 5 get to choose their spawn egg(?), and anyone past 20 votes per month (example shown is only if there is one participating voting site) would be put in a pool for random lottery where another 5 is chosen, without the ability to freely choose.
     
  7. Kitkatsuni

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    Spawn eggs seem underwhelming. I can't really see them making people, especially newcomers want to vote more often. Perhaps as mentioned previously there might be other items that could be substituted for eggs that are more desirable? I can't think of any off of the top of my head. As far as I am aware the only unique item in-game is the Dragon's Egg.

    Also would these items be tradeable? If so, would they have an impact on the economy?
     
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    Also I'm pretty sure a lot of regulars vote every day. If that happens then would nobody win? I think that there would be like a 30 place tie for 1st and then nobody would win. Maybe if u win a PvP event or Spleef u get one
     
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    Yes, but the flaw in barry's idea, even though I really like the idea, is the fact that it would take a lot of recoding for the plugin to recognize an animal spawned by a spawn egg.
     
  10. BarryX15

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    Regardless if egg-spawned animals despawn or not - eggs themselves are rare items, we are not supposed to spawn animals only, we can collect eggs, as well as we collect other stuff (i am proud to have collection of all music disks).

    I guess that atm we would be able to keep just dogs and cats as tamed animals dont despawn - and if plugin would be recoded, we could keep other animals too. There may be more wolf/ocelot eggs given, making them more affordable for pet lovers, and keeping other eggs more rare.
     
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    Now that's a way around it! :p
     
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    It seems possible with the built in Bukkit API, the current plugin would need to be modified using The CreatureSpawnEvent stuff from bukkit, possibly storing the information or entity ID or something of the egg spawned animals, and then not de-spawning them.
     
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    In 1.6 if you put a name tag on a animal it won't despawn. Solution: each spawn egg comes with a name tag. To expand on Barry's idea, I don't think it should based a "i got 30 votes along with 30 others this weekend". Here is how i think it should work: 20 votes in a month gets you: *whatever prize* 25 votes gets you *whatever price* and voting everyday gets you: *whatever prize. It would be kinda cool if there was a list of voters but it might kinda pointless lol. IMO if you vote everyday for a month (its no easy task, trust me i have tried other servers that have this same idea) you should get like VIP or some sethomes or maybe some other aspects of donor packages. Like if you vote everyday for a month you get VIP for next month and then loose it when minestatus resets. This should also encompass the voting for diamonds, but as i see it, voting for diamonds should be separate, but that's me. What this server only really cares about it seems is minestatus but maybe you get a mini prize if you vote everyday for diamonds (like a extra diamond if you vote everyday for a week on the diamond sites) Idk lol just my idea :p
     
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    I love this idea, could bring a whole new section to Quazzes Screenshot thread :D
     
  15. BarryX15

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    I didnt know about this, this solves despawning issue clearly and easily. We dont have to have name tags on given eggs - everyone can rename it on anvil.
     
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    I meant you get a name tag and a spawn egg, since name tags can only be found in dungeon or mineshaft chests. :D
     
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    If it were done like that, with the X votes for X reward, then it could be built into the vote listener. It would be easier to do that way, and require less coding. This would solve the issue of ties, and it would make more of an incentive to vote.

    About the not-despawning on the tags, did you hear that from Deity/Taco, because the plugin may not work that way, since they have the plugin to do the despawns, then i think that the despawning is whatever the plugin despawns.
     
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    @the tags. It's a feature in 1.6. Anything with a name tag doesn't respawn in multiplayer anymore. ( if I remember correctly). It even works on villagers.
     
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    Sounds like a cool idea, but if you got to use a spawn egg more than once, that'd be bad. I think it's just on horses, but if you right click one with a spawn egg, several more baby horses spawn
     
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    This is good idea but something more than just spawn eggs would be better.
     

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