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Why some MOD jokes aren't that funny.

Discussion in 'Kingdoms General' started by Seedy_Slim, May 19, 2012.

  1. Seedy_Slim

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    Noob on server: "Does anyone have sticky pistons (or other currently unattainable item) for sale?"
    MOD: "I do, 5,000 DEI each."


    Our Mod may be a super swell guy or gal, but what they have just told this new player is that Sticky Pistons are available (although for an obscene price) for purchase. This player does not know that most players can't make SPistons currently and that no one at all can place them (without some kind of server powers).

    Because our Mod is a classy chap/chapette, they won't really sell a sticky piston even if presented 5K because they know the player couldn't place it. Ha-Ha, see, they were just joking.

    Enter unscrupulous salesperson. Noob thinks that because Sticky Pistons are available, they are placeable (an assumption, but a reasonable one, especially if they are new to SMP). Salesperson offers to and in fact does sell 4 sticky pistons to Noob for 2000 total. Noob thinks they're getting a great deal (until they try to place them) - and doesn't really have any recourse. Congratulations. You've just created extra headaches for the admins because of potential PM complaints. Worse, you may have scared off someone who was a great and fun player after they got their feet wet - perhaps even a potential multiple contributor.

    Was our MOD trying to be deceptive? No, but by legitimizing an item that is not currently useable without immediately saying "it cannot be placed" in trade chat, they are setting up a new player to be taken advantage of. Remember, there is no master list displaying which items are placeable/obtainable...

    P.S. It's not really a funny joke anyway.

    Cheers.
     
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  2. zRations

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    Sticky pistons can be obtained and made. On the holiday of Easter, the admins made slime balls along with spawner eggs available for a short period of time. Therefore being able to make sticky pistons. He can make the price whatever he feels.
    Some items are rare and people want RARE items just to say they have them.
    I really have no idea why you would be making this post.
     
  3. Stiah

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    If you read chat 5 seconds before the person looking to buy sticky pistons, the question about "Can we place sticky pistons?" was asked, to which I responded no. Just because someone cant place a certain block, doesn't mean that its not worth a huge amount. There are collectors (like me) who would pay even more then 5k for a sticky piston.
     
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  4. smcallah

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    Why would you think it's a joke? Sticky pistons are able to be made if you have slimeballs, which many people on the server have. Just because something isn't currently placeable doesn't mean it's worth 0 dei. It's worth whatever someone is willing to sell it for or pay for it.

    Also, why wouldn't you use the mod's name that said this? You're not going to hurt anyone's feelings.
     
  5. FallingWithStyle

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    I don't mean to offend anyone here, but I saw this conversation as it was happening. I've noticed people on this server can sometimes be oversensitive... Why does this matter? Was anyone actually tricked? Would any noob who didn't know that sticky pistons couldn't be placed have 2000 dei?

    This isn't the only case of oversensitivity I've witnessed in my brief time here... People make small mistakes (like posing a question on the wrong channel, obviously accidentally) and get jumped on by 10 people saying "ASK ON /G, NOOB" or "w/c I'ma report you." I guess I just don't get why we can't just all be good-humored toward one another...
     
  6. Cantwait2bhome

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    Perhaps I'm misinterpreting @Seedy's comments, but I think he's actually pointing out the same thing you're talking about. I know that when I first got on, I would ask questions or see other people do the same. If the questions end up sounding too dumb, people end up making sarcastic remarks or "joking" with them as @Seedy suggests. Sure, the questions could probably be answered if the individual were to look elsewhere, but I just feel that some people unnecessarily snotty at times.

    Anyway, just my two cents there.
     
  7. minibirde

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    Now if he'd offered to sell them and not had them...that Would truely be a bad joke. I'm still thinking about buying them...:} Maybe one day we'll be able to place them...
     
  8. PandasFriend

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    Maybe, one day, sticky pistons would be placeable (as minibride said). If this is the case, then this "noob" you speak of has got himself a good deal. Sticky pistons are rare an have the possibility to be expensive, as said before. You can't just go making false assumptions about people's intentions with a certain item, placeable or not.
     
  9. Leviathan_Ziz

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    Another question that I feel I have to add, to this quite hypothethical conversation: What person would buy something for 2000d, that a new player won't obtain fast in any way, not asking around why it's so expensive, and if it is the real price?

    When they become placeable, the rarity will also disappear, because I doubt Deity wants to hold something back that you can use without causing issues. Tough I doubt they will ever become placeable, the security-breaching possibilities are insolveable.
     
  10. igagog777

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    I dont see how sticky pistions could cause a problem at all it just allows people to be creative with redstone.
    So how would i cause a problem, for the record im not saying your wrong i just cant think of any ways that it can cause problems.
    Thanks
     
  11. Gwenhywar

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    Sticky pistons are used to "grab" blocks out of other peoples plots so a way for griefers to have "fun" how they call it.
     
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    Oh i see couldnt you implement a system to stop that though, so for example the sticky pistons only stick to plots that you own?
    Thanks for the reply also :)
     
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    I can implement nothing. :p And I have not a clue about programming really. So this answer should be given by our big boys. ;) Though I think, that there are other -more important things- to be done and I know they are constantly working hard to improve this hillarious server.
     
  14. valdemarian

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    Why has no one thought of such a resolution up to this point? You sir are brilliant!
     
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    You can push blocks out of peoples plots with regular pistons. I don't see griefing as a viable argument for sticky pistons. Now causing server lag with too many piston machines or a bunch of player traps could be a good reason.
    Griefing with sticky pistons as a reason to be disabled doesn't hold water.
     
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    If this was even near possible, the creators of plugins like Factions and Towny would've done it, but seeing those don't have it, then I don't see how our programmer gods can do it. If no one can, even they can't :I(

    Using regular pistons you can push blocks out of their plot, the only problem this holds is that blocks you push out of a plot always end up on another plot. So far I don't think there are many towns with a 1 plot per living square design, so this is hardly a problem.
    However when it comes to sticky pistons you can easily pull out blocks using the piston and make an entrance into a house, or steal blocks from walls.
     
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    You cannot push it out of some1's plot. You can max push 12 blocks around. (plot = 16 blocks) You can only push blocks on a plot this way.
     
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    Well, elwinh, what if you put a piston on the border of your plot, make a one-high sand/gravel tower and hook up the piston to a clock.
    That will definitely push out blocks.
    Just an FYI :p
     
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    Actually this problem has been fixed for awhile. I'm not sure if it's WorldGuard that does it, but pistons CANNOT extend or push a block into a protected area that you do not have access to.
     
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    It may be a bit offtopic but i would love to see this design worked out. Not sure how it works cause each clock would stop at 13 blocks but i may be wrong. :)
     

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