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Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Gahzi, May 13, 2012.

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  1. strydier

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    Most of you are pissing me off. I don't have a problem with spending 12k for a visible, close to spawn base. I don't have a problem with you annexing land. I don't have a problem with you using a couple of backstabbing town members to gain access. What I do have a problem with is you using a glitch/hack or whatever to go around the rules to win. I made sure I read all the rules and tested out what would work and what wouldn't work before buying that land and building that base. You coming up with excuses for using it because you needed a substitute for tnt or didn't want a battle to last longer than 5 minutes is pathetic. It shows that you don't really care about the whole concept of pvp or the pvp world. You just want to be able to stand around and spam chat that you are #1. Justify whatever you like. You exploited the pvp world beyond what the admins intended. As far as the two town traitors. That's a town matter and you can be damn sure they wont get off lightly.

    Next time Ill save myself the trouble and not participate. Some of you just never seem to care that your actions cause others to never trust you on ImDeity ever again.
     
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    Everyone is fighting, mods are being called "cheaters", and a long thread of repetitive comments.

    Sounds like pvp server is going good.
     
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  3. Leviathan_Ziz

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    Sadly you are wrong, I would love for the pvp server to be a server where you can raid and pvp all you want, and I would love for it to have close to 0 protection, but what happens on other pvp servers is rather dumb, the faction with the most dishonest idea wins, basicly. Also, why would we want a ultra-chaotic pvp server like others, if there are plenty of others? I have an idea for a factions/rpg server, that's alot more original then the idea of a pvp server where dishonesty and cheap tricks make you win.

    Substituting the lack of TNT? This is why TNT will be added, but everyone should get acces to it at the same time, not some people faster with the ender pearls. That's abusing.
     
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    ender pearls? are you joking? That is a completely fair and legitimate way to get into an enemy faction. When creating a base, consider the different ways that people are able to enter bases, and then build with that in mind.
     
  5. zRations

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    I really don't understand what using ender pearls has to do with abusing anything.
    Ender pearls were brought into the game by Mojang itself and have a use in multiplayer servers. It is no way a cheat or a bug. Not to mention it is very hard to get ender pearls. Everyone has access to them if they choose to.
     
  6. crazyliam99

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    If you don't like the pvp server then why play it when you keep raging about people hacking and glitching? You haven't any evidence of any of this, and besides any mods and admins can ban so why keep bugging them to ban someone they have no idea about and don't have any hacking/glitching proof?
     
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  7. Gwenhywar

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    Using an enderpearl to glitch through a destroyed block that should not have been destroyable in the first place, is abusing a glitch. Nuff said.
     
  8. Leviathan_Ziz

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    Mojang did not chose to have ender pearls avoid protection systems in an illegal way. Using glitches is always abusing them. Glitches are not ment to be in the game, and it's most definetly abusing, if not everyone knows about it, and it's been marked as a legal use of a glitch or bug.
     
  9. Rumoshi

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    Ok well let's start with the ender pearls.... How is that abusing the game? IT is implemented in the game and is there for up for our own use why is something that is implemented and not already taken out by deity STILL abusing the game? It's simple levi ender pearls is not abusing the game. Now about substituting it for TNT people seem to have been going off a bit wrongly on this but whatever ALOT of people the ones that actually do raid successfully (reech) use block glitches to get into bases. Also you calling me wrong on my idea of a pvp server? It's a faction pvp server you raid and pillage kill anyone you want if you lose your things tough luck if you don't like what is happening on this pvp server don't play on it this pvp server isn't babying you, you can die be utterly destroyed but that is what happens in such a server this pvp server was implemented for pvp if you want rpg there are other servers for it just like there is pvp.

    Also it's not like we're the only ones that have access to this glitch everyone does so I don't see what the problem is when you can do the exact same thing to us. And strydier you saying we exploited the game beyond what the admins intended? It's one glitch that anyone and everyone can do it can be done easy but also blocked easy. We exploited one thing and you said we exploited it beyond what the admins intended and if that is true what else did we exploit Because this block glitching if everyone can do it is getting to much attention.
     
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    I'm not sure I follow. A destroyed block that wasn't supposed to be destroyed? How can we destroy a block that is not owned by our faction by another?

    In no way is it avoiding the protection system. Ender pearls simply enable us to get into a base without using the front door, but it in no way allows us to open any chests or break blocks.
     
  11. Gwenhywar

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    It glitches out and you know that. It is vanished for seconds and you trow in the pearl (you as someone not you as zrations). I actually dunno who did it, just heard that many used that.
     
  12. Rumoshi

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    Just to clear up Levi if someone were to try to throw a enderpearl into a base and at the same time break a block even if it's protected and it looks like you can throw it in you can't I've tried myself you cannot throw it into a base if it is protected. You can only throw it into a hole and get in if you can shoot an arrow through it.
     
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    I didn't even think of that. The only times I and my faction have ever used ender pearls were that to throw over a wall.
     
  14. Leviathan_Ziz

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    How can making use of ender pearls to pass blocks that are not supposed to be passed, a good use and the ment use of ender pearls?
    Using block glitches, with multiple persons, and everyone doing it, does not make it legal.

    To your second set of lines: Everyone might have, but not everyone knows about it, something being able does not make it allowed. You say that people can defend themselves easily against it, however people first need to suffer from it, learn from it and then counter it.

    Your basicly trying to justify your use of glitches, which is wrong. There is no point you can make that allows people to justify, in this case, or in any case. If it's normal on other pvp servers, it doesn't mean it's normal here on ImDeity.

    Once again: A pvp server should be about killing, raiding and pillaging, but people should also have some protected base, I can imagine that new factions are going to be lost within the first day of existence. The way some of you "pvp-veterans" make a pvp world see is merely hostile, a pvp/faction world should be made up of a well-balanced diplomatic part, aswell as a substansially larger pvp part, the problem is, it's just pvp and glitch abusing atm. Those who do not cheat lose.
     
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    Enderpearls were made to make you teleport so if you use them to get into a base with a broken or misspalced block there isn't anything wrong with it. Enderpearls are not accounted for as cheating so why is the count for saying they are hackers when they used enderpearls to go through a broken block?
     
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    The point is a block that vanishes for seconds cause the server/game did not recognize fast enough the block was not supposed to break, is a glitch. And glitches shall not be used as a "door opener". Or at least that is what some of us think, others do not. I heard that, if Rumo says it is not possible I wonder why I heard it more than once or twice, from different people from different factions.
     
  17. Rumoshi

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    You can only throw a enderpearl into a hole and get in if you can shoot an arrow through it.<--------------- This means that you can't break blocks in a protected base and throw a enderpearl into it.

    Now I am not trying to justify myself but this rule where you cannot exploit a bug was already explained it was not meant in said way it was meant in if deity could control it do not exploit it tell deity blah blah blah. This pvp server is about raiding killing and pillaging you saying that the people who don't cheat lose? You get 30%.......30% less damage you can destroy most people in your base if you don't have the skill to hold it you lose it. It's already unbalanced since they get 30% less damage but they also have a home ground advantage and can call allies without you seeing them it's easy to not "Cheat" and win but let's take a example here

    Wareech They have a base in the middle of the ocean straight up and down so we can not block glitch in the only way is to throw a enderpearl on top and if the doors are not blocked up we can get in but only if they are not blocked up
     
  18. strydier

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    Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Theres glitches in every mmo. Every gaming company says if you get caught exploiting it you risk getting banned, suspended etc. As stated above you are using something NOT intended to do something to give you an advantage. It doesnt matter whether or not everyone can use it. The point being you arent supposed to use it. Whats the point of claiming land, creating bases, assaulting the walls, using ender pearls or even a traitor to get in if everyone can just glitch exploit a glitch that takes away an aspect of creating/defending/attacking bases as the admins intended? If thats the case just claim land and stand around on it waiting for an attack since theres a glitch everyone should be able to use it and no point in building defenses.
     
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    I didn't reply to you in the first place directly because you seemed abit mad but now I shall. There's some things on this server you can do you can hide in your base to scared to go out thinking that somehow someone can break the blocks over your chests and open them (Which you can't do on protected land) and take your stuff or you can go around marauding killing raiding doing things like that. This is a pvp server and the bug has been stated more than once. Like I said I was the one who wrote the actual rule down if you did not listen i was not looking at the full aspect but I've said it many times and I'll say it again any Exploits that deity can control (This rules out block glitching) is not allowed so if you somehow find a way to get millions of diamond blocks and you start exploiting that without telling deity and you keep on doing so you shall get banned when notice is taken This block glitch bug is something different you cannot control that strydier that is a bug within minecraft itself also how are you supposed to moderate that? Have admins watching players 24/7? The claiming of land protects your blocks which you use to store your stuff you can have an open plot with chests full of stuff and if there is a block above them you cannot get into them so the only way block glitching is useful is for killing people that is it you can get into something that cannot be gotten into a secure room can be breached however you have to one have to be under it and two have to have the area where you are block glitching blocked by other blocks it will put you where it has space for you it is really easy to block this off.

    Also If everyone can use this block glitch how is it an advantage to another person? Everyone has the same advantage over each other so it balances out doesn't it?
     
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    I've no idea what glitching is or how it works but from what Gwen's saying, it seems as though in the few seconds that a block is destroyed in a protected zone and the server replaces it a player can glitch through?

    If that's the case then I don't see how anybody thinks it's alright, just like spawning in and out of home isn't :p

    This is also my mentality. I don't mind being attacked and pummelled if I have made a mistake for instance not claiming the plot that one of my towers was built on........... But as soon as I claim that plot and then find out players have gotten through walls by glitching, or glitched a wolf though a wall, that's when I get mad and complain.
     
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