Lightswitch signs

We used to have lightswitch signs in craftbook plugin working on 2012 map, but we have nothing like that atm.
Some redstone lamps need massive wiring to bring power from lever/switch to the lamp. Some cannot even be powered at all if we want to hide wires.
What if there would be a sign working as "wireless" switch, replacing minecraft:redstone_lamp blocks with minecraft:lit_redstone_lamp blocks?

Four lines of sign could be:
[text] = any text or empty
Lightswitch
[text] = any text or empty
<range> = how far away should the switch reach (possibly rising limit depending on craftsman level)

 

I really love the sound of that /lightswitch command. It'd certainly allow for a much easier time setting up lighting in a large house. Don't know about anyone else but I'd definitely choose the command over the sign.

 

My only objection against using of a command is that the idea was to give craftsmen more perks = only they can place sign (thus the restriction of range depending on their rank) and everyone else can click it. Similarly to this suggestion, extending the lift sign plugin.

EDIT - a bit more complicated idea for range limits:
- lightswitch would work only on lamps in one chunk to prevent switching your neighbor's lamps.
- range 10 for all dicrections, range 10 5 for horizontal and up directions, range 10 5 2 for horizontal, up and down direction (if you use floor lights but have a sign in eye level)

EDIT2 - testing /fill command in singleplayer, the lit_redstone_lamp turns off if there is no power source. I wonder if this plugin could overcome it.

 

Question though, if others wouldnt even be able to use it, whats the point? So a handful of people can now turn lights on and off, thats great. But if others just get errors? The sign idea would work because, as barry said, craftsmen place, others can click

 

I think you misunderstand what btarb is saying. If I understand correctly, only craftsmen can activate light switches, but anyone can use them once they're activated. It's the same concept as a sign, only the sign is now a switch, so it looks nicer in your house.

So in essence non-craftsmen cannot use the command to create a light switch, however once a light switch has been created they are free to use the switch itself.

 

EDIT: i was slow with posting and most of my post has been made obsolete.

Does this mean that only craftsmen would be able to operate lightswitches? My idea was that craftsmen can create the switch (place a sign) and everyone can use the switch, same as with [Lift] signs. While creating the switch would need some knowledge, operating the switch would need only to know "click here".

If block updates cause issues, then i would avoid routes 1 & 3. Route 4 is too complex for simple "click here" use. Route 2 is my favorite one, easy to build and vanilla-proof, however the lever is sometimes difficult to place. One of my favorite ways to hide power source is this (levers will be hidden inside floor, see full tutorial):

Switching just levers directly adjacent to redstone lamps would not work here. How to solve it? Operate all levers in the range regardless of the block attached?

And i still prefer signs, better combined with levers = they can be used by people who have "Use" permission.

Speaking about the range, there can be some 15 characters on one line of the sign, enough to put in 6 single or double digit numbers to specify range in all directions (North, South, East, West, Up, Down).

To finish the sign+lever idea, here is first system:

1. have a lever.
2. have a sign placed next to it (above, under, left or right).
3. have that sign with specific text:
- line 1 = any text
- line 2 = [Switch]
- line 3 = numbers defining range in N, S, E, W, U, D directions (negative numbers possible, e.g. 5 5 5 5 -2 3 would operate all levers withing 5 blocks range in all horizontal directions, 2 to 3 blocks under the main switch)
- line 4 = any text
3. switching the lever will switch all levers in the range (if specified by 6 numbers) if they are in the same chunk.
4. only craftsman can place sign with [Switch] text. Rank 1 craftsmen can specify range up to say 10 blocks, rank 2 up to 30 blocks, rank 3 up to 99 blocks.

and here is second system:

1. have a lever.
2. have a sign placed next to it (above, under, left or right).
3. have that sign with specific text:
- line 1 = any text
- line 2 = [Switch]
- line 3 = number defining group of switches
- line 4 = any text
3. switching the lever will switch all levers that have a sign with the same text on line 2 and 3 next to it. Any lever of the group switches all other levers as well. Switches can be in all chunks, maximum distance is 10 blocks for Rank1, 30 blocks for Rank 2, 99 blocks for Rank 3 craftsman.
4. only craftsman can place sign with [Switch] text. There cannot be another system of levers with the same group number within 100 blocks around.

 

sounds like it is getting worked through pretty good.

Q; Once a lamp has been (clicked) to a switch is it possible to assign another switch to the same lamp, or will it over-ride the first command, or will it be an error as the lamp is already assigned?

: Is it possible to link switches to switches, IE; Switch (A) operates lamps 1, 2, 3 ,and Switch (B) operates lamps 4, 5, 6. Switch (C) operates Switches (A), (B)?

 

Don't know what you guys think but I like:
Edit: Make changes to terrain.
Interact: Use plot owners private items.
Entry: Use doors, gates, plates, switches to enter and explore house.
View: Step on plot, explore outside of building.

 

So if Halli wants to have a lever operated by a lever, the concern is complexity of use, and if i want to have a lever operated by a lever, the concern is abuse? Mischievous wizardry is already possible with redstone wiring, just cannot be placed where it would need too much space for hidden wires
(i had an idea for a honey house trap which never made it to forums, using trapped chest wired to pistons to make people fall through floor into hidden underground water pool with few signs telling them why they ended up down there, all guarded by protection stone, which would need that old-style protection stone behavior e.g. against breaking blocks, but not against switching)


What if we extend this to have proper "WiRe" = Wireless Redstone?
e.g. shorten the /lightswitch command to /switch command, allow "master" element to be either redstone torch or a lever, and "slave" elements to be levers.

 

I agree with barry's idea about lightswitch signs, that would be a very cool/new addition to the server.

 

sry, my intention was to use them for an archery range. Lamps are lit when targets are hit, thusly one lever to clear them when the player is done would be nice, although what happens to the targets that were not hit, would those lamps light up when I use the lever?

I can do it another way using nor switches, just a little cumbersome to build around when targets are near each other, and I do want to make a compact version of the archery. The one I made last map worked pretty good, minimal maintenance required, and it gave rewards/target hit. I might just stick to that way with the droppers and item drop de-spawn timer as the target resets. Only problem with that is it puts the player on a time restraint to get all targets lit at once. Which puts me back to a nor switch, LOL